John X Splash (Litter B)

This will be my “B” litter beings CupCake X Jack’s litter was my “A” litter.

Today was their first day out of the nest box and away from mom. They did very well.

I took pictures and a quick video when I returned them to mom. They didn’t want to stay in the next box at first – they wanted to meet my dog and hang out with mom in the cage area. I thought that was cute.

I’m not sure if this here broken is a broken black Otter or not. I will need to get a confirmation on that. The two that look like John are black Otter although one is better marked than the other. The one with better markings is the only male and looks exactly like John. Although I hope this baby doesn’t have John’s scattered white hairs. ;o) John has a fault with his scattered white hairs on his body.

How do they look ? So darling I think !!! This is my second successful litter.

Bunny One – my first broken bunny !! I need to ask someone if I can show this one. She has a little white slit down her nose butterfly .. not sure if that’s a DQ  or not. She also has some white going about 1/4 up her ears .. The SOP says full butterfly/color on ears  – I need to get a professional opinion. If these are just a fault I’d like to show her.

Rex Rabbit

This is the mark  on her butterfly.  ???

Rex Rabbit

Bunny Two – this one doesn’t have the distinct tan triangle on the back of her neck – but it’s there. I hope it gets more pronounced as she grows up. She is also the smallest bunny of the 3.

Rex Rabbit

Bunny Three – This one here has funky looking eye markings. But looks the most like John and has a distinct tan triangle on the back of his neck.

Rex Rabbit

Fun Pictures ;o)

Rex Rabbits

Rex Rabbits

 

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Naming and Tattooing CupCakes Babies at 14 weeks old

The babies are growing up nice !! They are 14 weeks old now and soo darling !!

I have decided to name all in this litter with the letter “A” – I figure keep it simple with my tattoo series – that way whenever so and so is refered to I know exactly which bunny is in question.

Beings there are 5 girls and 1 boy – I named the boy Achim (MKA1).  Ha Ha

The girls names are:

Anon (MKA2)

Asia (MKA3)

Avi (MKAH) – H because I messed up the 4

April (MKA5) – here the 5 kinda looks like a S

Africa (MKA6)

Anon, Asia and Avi I plan to show. I think Anon has the nicest color also the nicest furred bunny. That’s just my opinion.

April’s Tattoo

 

 

Harlequin Mini Rex (Silly)

My new addition is a Japanese Harlequin Mini Rex doe (A_B_C_D_ej_) which carries the (ej) gene. This is the doe I’m going to use to start my Tri colored Mini Rex program. Harlequin isn’t a showable color with the Mini Rex, but, the broken version is what will give me my Tri colored rabbits.

Silly Harlequin Mini Rex

Silly Harlequin Mini Rex

Silly Harlequin Mini Rex

Silly Harlequin Mini Rex

While learning some of this genetic stuff I gather the Harlequin is considered a solid colored rabbit (enen) so I would have to breed my Harlequin doe to a broken buck (Enen) to produce the broken pattern for Tri colored rabbits. I’ve also read that the (ej) is a brindling gene that causes Tri and Harlequin is incompletely dominant and does mess up other colors. It’s the (eje) genotype rabbits that are self based and are considered torted while the Agouti based (eje) rabbits are not torted – that’s how I understand it.

So, I will have to keep my Harlequin and Tri project seperate from my other Mini Rex line. I also read that Harlequin and Tri have the same genetic code (A_B_C_D_ej_) BUT Harlequin is solid color (enen) and Tri is broken (Enen).

All I need now is a broken (Enen) or nice charlie marked tri colored (EnEn) mini rex buck. I have a broken tort doe but no broken bucks. A charlie would be nice because a charlie is the most dominant gene for broken and a solid is the most recessive. Normal broken pattern carries both genes (En & en) = (Enen)

Solid (enen) x Solid (enen) = 100% Solid (enen)

Charlie (EnEn) x Charlie (EnEn) = 100% Charlie (EnEn)

Broken (Enen) x Broken (Enen) = Charlie’s (EnEn) – Brokens (Enen) –  Solids (enen)

Broken (Enen) x Solid (enen) = Broken’s (Enen) – Solids (enen)

Charlie (EnEn) x Solid (enen) = 100% broken (Enen)

 

Understanding Punnett Squares (Opal x Castor)

This is Jack and CupCake.

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And these are their kits at 2 days old. I’m taking a guess I see castor, lilac, and chocolate based kits. Some are self and some have pattern. I am honestly in hopes that one in the right picture all the way to the left is a red. Keeping fingers crossed.  😀

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Here is the Punnett Square for the kits I made with Jack and CupCakes genotype based on the phenotype alone. I think this is the correct way to present a punnett square.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Yi52bAX9lc4/ULkgCGs5UwI/AAAAAAAABjk/qeBQTyJKBN8/s606/litter2punnett.JPG

Ok that posted. Here goes. Ha.

This is how I understand the Letter gene series.

The A gene can only be 3 things – agouti “A”, tan “at” or self “aa”.

CupCake and Jack both have one “A” in their phenotype, the other gene is unknown – but now I have kits from them so here goes.  😯 So if one of the babies is all brown (chocolate) or a self, that would mean both CupCake and Jack need to have each contributed the “a” gene. Is this right ?

Ok, now if at least one of the kits is a self chocolate or solid color (for example) – both CupCake and Jack contributed the “a” gene meaning on the punnett square I can change both CupCake and Jacks phenotype to “Aa”. That’s how I understand it.

On to the B series. “B” black and “b” brown (chocolate) – dilute of black is blue and dilute of brown (chocolate) is lilac. Ok same thing here – if one of the kits from CupCake and Jack is brown (chocolate) then each parent had to contribute the “b” gene. This means I can change both CupCake and Jacks phenotype on the punnett square to “Bb”. That’s how I understand it.

Now the C gene, this letter series is complicated but I think I know the basics. Correct me if I’m wrong. The C series is responsible for full colors. I know CupCake and Jack are not “c” meaning REW (ruby eyed white) so no “c” in the phenotype. Also none of the kits are REW so I think it’s safe to say no “c” gene. At least so far with one breeding. Not sure what to put on the punnett square other than one “C” for both CupCake and Jack. I’m leaning toward C(chd) but I don’t know enough yet so I leave the C location alone for now.

Ok the D series is density and dilution of color. “D” dense, “dd” dilute and “Dd” dense carrying dilute. Simple enough. So if one of CupCake and Jacks kits is a lilac that means each parent contributed a “d” gene. Meaning I can change both Jack and CupCake to “Dd” on the punnett square.

And finally the E series which is responsible for extension or non-extension of color down the hair shaft. There is a whole slew of them but I figure process of elimination here. “EE” full extension of color, “ee” non extension of color, “Ee” extension carrying non extension and “enen” solid color. At this point I don’t think any of the other genes in this letter series apply – but I dunno and I’m not quite sure how “enen” fits in either with the solid color. If someone could explain that would be great.  :geek:

— about this E series – I think because I see a possible red (not sure of that either) I assume I can change both Jack and CupCakes punnett square to “Ee” ? and tag onto that “en” because the possible chocolate, lilac and red appear one color – so there would have to be a solid color gene in there somewhere. Still learning all this though.  😉

So here is the new punnett square – with what I think looking at the kits. What do you think ? Corrections ?

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-592MYMQH0J8/ULk8jwqNajI/AAAAAAAABj0/VUS_khzRDCg/s647/litter2punnet2.JPG

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Opal x Castor Mini Rex Litter

Jack my Opal Mini Rex (A-B-C-ddEe) and CupCake my Castor Mini Rex (A-B-C-Dd-Ee) had a litter of 7 babies !!

Jack (Opal Mini Rex)

Jack (Opal Mini Rex)

CupCake (Castor Mini Rex)

CupCake (Castor Mini Rex)

Before this breeding Jacks Phenotype I assumed to be A-B-C-ddE- but now that his 7 babies with CupCake have arrived I believe his code is now AaBbC-ddEe although not 100% certain (still learning alleles here) but as I pick apart each color location I should be able to fill in the blanks.

Before this breeding  CupCakes Phenotype I assumed to be A-B-C-D-E- but now that her 7 babies have arrived I believe this code is now AaBbC-DdEe although not 100% certain (still learning alleles here) but as I pick apart each color location I should be able to fill in the blank.

Here are pictures of the 7. Maybe one of you can help me with colors and alleles ? Thanks.

Jack x CupCake Mini Rex

Jack x CupCake Mini Rex

Jack x CupCake Mini Rex

Jack x CupCake Mini Rex

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(John x Jill) Jade – Solid Black – 8 weeks old.

This is a kit from the very first litter of my Breeding Project. I believe a male, but because I’m new to all this rabbit stuff – I could be wrong. I’m pretty sure Jade is a male though.

John (Black Otter) x Jill (Black Tort) = Jade aaB-C-D-Ee carries the rex gene.

This baby is friendly, used to being handled, not afraid of a dog or cat and loves to sit with us on the sofa. This baby bunny loves his people and knows the litterbox.

This bunny is listed on my For Sale page.

Jade

Jade

 

Jade

Jade

 

 

John and Jill’s Kits 28 days old

Ahh the Maniac Litter is growing up !!! I took some pictures again today. I play with them everyday on the table grooming and all and check to see if I can tell male from female yet.

This morning I noticed 3 of the bunnies (Little John is one of them) have smeared behinds. Like diarrhea or something but I don’t see any in the litter box. I cleaned them up but them don’t seem themselves all active and running around this morning. The 4th bunny is acting normal with no smeared behind. The only thing I can think of is last night for supper I made chicken noodle soup and while the bunnies were hanging out in the kitchen with me I gave them some celery bottoms, they didn’t eat it all but did eat some. I hope they are ok.

Here are some pictures of this morning. It appears Little John isn’t a Little John the more I check his privates, his parts are different than the other 3, I think he’s a girl.

How do they look ?

Litter 1

Litter 1

Litter 1

Litter 1

Litter 1

Litter 1

Litter 1

Litter 1

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